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		<title>By: pudge</title>
		<link>http://mcgees.org/2008/01/21/what-i-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-77760</link>
		<dc:creator>pudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of what you wrote is not being an asshole, except for the part where you inaccurately refer to male circumcision as &quot;genital mutilation.&quot;  The genitals are never modified in any way, only the skin around them.  Ask any victim of actual genital mutilation if there&#039;s a difference between modifying the genitals, and modifying the essentially useless skin around the genitals.

I also see absolutely no difference -- from an atheist perspective -- between the existence of Israel and the existence of any other nation.  Almost all national boundaries exist for one or more of a few reasons, but one of those very common reasons is cultural.  To an atheist, religion seems like it should simply a part of the culture.  I see no difference.

But you do treat religion differently from other cultural phenomena, and I do not understand that all.  You seem to imply it should not be treated differently by saying it should be taxed normally, but then you treat it very differently (saying it should be &quot;quiet&quot; in public).  Hell no: I&#039;ll be as loud as I want to in public, just like the Tea Party and Occupy protestors, or Lady Gaga, or PETA, or anyone else.

And yes, I will tolerate you indoctrinating your children as you tolerate me indoctrinating mine.  Every parent indoctrinates their children, even if they try not to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of what you wrote is not being an asshole, except for the part where you inaccurately refer to male circumcision as &#8220;genital mutilation.&#8221;&nbsp; The genitals are never modified in any way, only the skin around them.&nbsp; Ask any victim of actual genital mutilation if there&#8217;s a difference between modifying the genitals, and modifying the essentially useless skin around the genitals.</p>
<p>I also see absolutely no difference &#8212; from an atheist perspective &#8212; between the existence of Israel and the existence of any other nation.&nbsp; Almost all national boundaries exist for one or more of a few reasons, but one of those very common reasons is cultural.&nbsp; To an atheist, religion seems like it should simply a part of the culture.&nbsp; I see no difference.</p>
<p>But you do treat religion differently from other cultural phenomena, and I do not understand that all.&nbsp; You seem to imply it should not be treated differently by saying it should be taxed normally, but then you treat it very differently (saying it should be &#8220;quiet&#8221; in public).&nbsp; Hell no: I&#8217;ll be as loud as I want to in public, just like the Tea Party and Occupy protestors, or Lady Gaga, or PETA, or anyone else.</p>
<p>And yes, I will tolerate you indoctrinating your children as you tolerate me indoctrinating mine.&nbsp; Every parent indoctrinates their children, even if they try not to.</p>
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		<title>By: What I Believe &#171; Monicks: Unleashed</title>
		<link>http://mcgees.org/2008/01/21/what-i-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-77744</link>
		<dc:creator>What I Believe &#171; Monicks: Unleashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] entry was originally posted by my friend Joshua McGee (@mcgees.org) at his website.  I am reposting it with his permission. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] entry was originally posted by my friend Joshua McGee (@mcgees.org) at his website.  I am reposting it with his permission. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Mike</title>
		<link>http://mcgees.org/2008/01/21/what-i-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-43864</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;I thought “Gondor” was too obscure.&lt;/I&gt;

For &lt;B&gt;your&lt;/B&gt; readership? Unlikely.

&lt;I&gt;This is not the first time (that was 1991), and will not be the last time, I cite a GURPS book as an authoritative reference, by the way.&lt;/I&gt;

I dislike the GURPS system, but I own several of the sourcebooks, because they&#039;re so well written.

Also: &lt;B&gt;Neeeeeerrrrrrrddddddsssss!&lt;/B&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I thought “Gondor” was too obscure.</i></p>
<p>For <b>your</b> readership? Unlikely.</p>
<p><i>This is not the first time (that was 1991), and will not be the last time, I cite a GURPS book as an authoritative reference, by the way.</i></p>
<p>I dislike the GURPS system, but I own several of the sourcebooks, because they&#8217;re so well written.</p>
<p>Also: <b>Neeeeeerrrrrrrddddddsssss!</b></p>
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		<title>By: Joshua <i>(Site Owner)</i></title>
		<link>http://mcgees.org/2008/01/21/what-i-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-43858</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua <i>(Site Owner)</i></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I thought that we were already living in Mordor.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
I thought &quot;Gondor&quot; was too obscure.  The intention wasn&#039;t to say that Israel is inherently evil (I&#039;d have to believe in evil for that), just that creating a Biblically-named modern state is not relevantly different from creating a Tolkien-named modern state.
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I thought that we were already living in Mordor.</i></p>
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I thought &#8220;Gondor&#8221; was too obscure.&nbsp; The intention wasn&#8217;t to say that Israel is inherently evil (I&#8217;d have to believe in evil for that), just that creating a Biblically-named modern state is not relevantly different from creating a Tolkien-named modern state.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua <i>(Site Owner)</i></title>
		<link>http://mcgees.org/2008/01/21/what-i-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-43857</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua <i>(Site Owner)</i></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;
From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/low-tech/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;GURPS Low-Tech&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 1st Edition, by Evan Jamieson, Richard Meyer, and William H. Stoddard:
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Archaeologists working at the site of Jericho discovered that its oldest relics date to 7000 &lt;abbr title=&quot;B.C.E.&quot;&gt;B.C.&lt;/abbr&gt;, long before any other cities were built.  The original city had massive walls &lt;abbr title=&quot;7m&quot;&gt;23&#039;&lt;/abbr&gt; high, enclosing &lt;abbr title=&quot;4 hectares&quot;&gt;10 acres&lt;/abbr&gt;.  A ditch &lt;abbr title=&quot;3m&quot;&gt;10&#039;&lt;/abbr&gt; deep surrounded the walls, and a round tower &lt;abbr title=&quot;10m&quot;&gt;33&#039;&lt;/abbr&gt; high and &lt;abbr title=&quot;13m&quot;&gt;43&#039;&lt;/abbr&gt; in diameter looked out over them.  The &lt;abbr title=&quot;2 400&quot;&gt;2,400&lt;/abbr&gt; inhabitants supported themselves by wheat farming and hunting gazelles with &lt;abbr title=&quot;bows and arrows&quot;&gt;bows and arrows&lt;/abbr&gt;.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Neato, huh?  This is not the first time (that was 1991), and will not be the last time, I cite a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GURPS&lt;/a&gt; book as an authoritative reference, by the way.
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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From <a href="http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/low-tech/" rel="nofollow"><i>GURPS Low-Tech</i></a>, 1st Edition, by Evan Jamieson, Richard Meyer, and William H. Stoddard:
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Archaeologists working at the site of Jericho discovered that its oldest relics date to 7000 <abbr title="B.C.E.">B.C.</abbr>, long before any other cities were built.&nbsp; The original city had massive walls <abbr title="7m">23&#8242;</abbr> high, enclosing <abbr title="4 hectares">10 acres</abbr>.&nbsp; A ditch <abbr title="3m">10&#8242;</abbr> deep surrounded the walls, and a round tower <abbr title="10m">33&#8242;</abbr> high and <abbr title="13m">43&#8242;</abbr> in diameter looked out over them.&nbsp; The <abbr title="2 400">2,400</abbr> inhabitants supported themselves by wheat farming and hunting gazelles with <abbr title="bows and arrows">bows and arrows</abbr>.
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<p>
Neato, huh?&nbsp; This is not the first time (that was 1991), and will not be the last time, I cite a <a href="http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/" rel="nofollow">GURPS</a> book as an authoritative reference, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: mcgees.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Epithets</title>
		<link>http://mcgees.org/2008/01/21/what-i-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-43846</link>
		<dc:creator>mcgees.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Epithets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mcgees.org L&#039;enfer, c&#039;est les autres     &#171; What I Believe [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mcgees.org L&#8217;enfer, c&#8217;est les autres&nbsp; &nbsp;  &laquo; What I Believe [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Mike</title>
		<link>http://mcgees.org/2008/01/21/what-i-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-43835</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;I believe the premise and existence of the modern state of Israel is at least as bizarre as if my family declared ownership of the British Isles, invaded, subjugated the citizenry, imposed martial law, renamed the nation “Mordor”, and declared war on Western Europe.&lt;/I&gt;

I thought that we were &lt;I&gt;already&lt;/I&gt; living in Mordor.

My favorite, favorite, favorite Bible story is the story of Jericho, because it mirrors so perfectly the current situation in the region.

&lt;B&gt;Children of Israel:&lt;/B&gt; Wow, that was some rough trade we just survived. Fortunately, here we are in our promised land!

&lt;B&gt;Jericho:&lt;/B&gt; Uhhh... Hey, we&#039;re living here.

&lt;B&gt;Children of Israel:&lt;/B&gt; Maybe you didn&#039;t hear us. This is our &lt;I&gt;promised land&lt;/I&gt;. It&#039;s our birthright.

&lt;B&gt;Jericho:&lt;/B&gt; We heard you just fine, but we&#039;re living here. We&#039;ve been living here for a while. These big-ass walls didn&#039;t just spring up overnight.

&lt;B&gt;Children of Israel:&lt;/B&gt; Interesting. Say, have you heard anything about our omnipotent ally? It works a little something like this...

[Jericho is wiped off the map.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I believe the premise and existence of the modern state of Israel is at least as bizarre as if my family declared ownership of the British Isles, invaded, subjugated the citizenry, imposed martial law, renamed the nation “Mordor”, and declared war on Western Europe.</i></p>
<p>I thought that we were <i>already</i> living in Mordor.</p>
<p>My favorite, favorite, favorite Bible story is the story of Jericho, because it mirrors so perfectly the current situation in the region.</p>
<p><b>Children of Israel:</b> Wow, that was some rough trade we just survived. Fortunately, here we are in our promised land!</p>
<p><b>Jericho:</b> Uhhh&#8230; Hey, we&#8217;re living here.</p>
<p><b>Children of Israel:</b> Maybe you didn&#8217;t hear us. This is our <i>promised land</i>. It&#8217;s our birthright.</p>
<p><b>Jericho:</b> We heard you just fine, but we&#8217;re living here. We&#8217;ve been living here for a while. These big-ass walls didn&#8217;t just spring up overnight.</p>
<p><b>Children of Israel:</b> Interesting. Say, have you heard anything about our omnipotent ally? It works a little something like this&#8230;</p>
<p>[Jericho is wiped off the map.]</p>
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